Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

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Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Velvet Underground » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:13 pm

Am o intrebare la aceasta tema 32. Diareea acută la copil (3, pg. 348- 358) cum e trecuta in fisierul cu tematica pe care il am.
Sunt corecte paginile?

Pe foile mele din Ciofu nu stiu de ce e tema e marcata de la paginile 347 - 365, incluzand in plus si infectia cu helycobacter, gastroenterocolita acuta grava, alergia la laptele de vaca si intoleranta secundara la lactoza.
Anul trecut nici nu m-am atins de tema asta, de-aia intreb.
Foile le am de la cineva care a dat acum vreo 3 ani.

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:28 pm

da, astea-s paginile (10 pagini se termina cu osomolaritatile alea la formulele dietetice). Spor!
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Velvet Underground » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:36 pm

Spor si voua la diaree!

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby 5-FU » Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:03 pm

Hahahahaha, buna poanta :)))

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Velvet Underground » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:07 pm

Ca sa nu deschid alt topic, la tema 5 cancerul pulmonar sunt incluse si tumorile benigne ?
la paginatie e dat 602-612, la 612 incep cele benigne.

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:38 pm

citeste-le si pe alea benigne-just in case-nu e cine stie ce! ;)
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Velvet Underground » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:48 pm

Pana la ce pagina sunt?
Eu n-am decat pagina 612 si se termina relativ brusc :)

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:50 pm

Citeste doar pagina aia 612 (adica fara tumori secundare-partea aia cu metastaze-cred ca sunt vreo 3 randuri jos in dreapta). Era o discutie pe alt topic cum ca in 2004 la grilele alea propuse de cine propunea grile pt examen au aparut si cateva din hamartom si alte tumori benigne.
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby AllBlue » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:56 am

Tema 31 - Infectiile perinatale

m-au zapacit totaaaaal la partea cu Infectia bacteriana perinatala - Investigatii de laborator - Examene de laborator cu valoare predictiva!!
spun la un mom dat ca este unanim acceptat ca un nn cu risc de infectie care asociaza leucocitoza cu pmn si deviere la stg sa fie etichetat cu sepsis, dupa care, in criterii, spun ca nr leucocite tre sa fie sub 5000.
care-i faza cu leucocitoza/leucopenie?
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:01 pm

Da, in sepsis poti sa ai fie leucucitoza fie leucopenie (de fapt e si criteriu de SIRS la adult leu>12000 sau leu<4000 sau cel putin 10% forme imature care demonstreaza tocmai devierea la stanga de care spunea mai devreme si faptul ca maduva produce leucocite).
SIRS cu infectie dovedita sau suspectata e sepsis.
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby AllBlue » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:09 pm

Riley, inteleg ce spui, dar ma refer strict la criteriile lor tampite din cartea de pediatrie.
de ce nu e in criterii faza cu leucocitoza SAU leucopenie si au bagat doar leucopenia? sa ma leg de "cele mai utilizate 5 criterii cu valoare predictiva"?
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:22 pm

Leucopenia are valoare predictiva mai mare pt sepsis. Leucocitoza are valoare predictiva pozitiva mai mica intrucat apare si in SIRS non-infectios. Probabil ca in SIRS non-infectios mai frecvent apare leucocitoza decat leucopenie. Sper ca m-am facut cat de cat inteles ;).
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby AllBlue » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:45 pm

am inteles. ce ma bucur ca am inteles!
multumesc :)
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby gaurav_singh_md » Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:40 pm

pg 1067 - hemoragie oculta semnificativa este mai des asociata herniei paraesofagiene
oculta este de fapt acuta.
Significant acute bleeding is more often associated with paraesophageal hernias.

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby dr_me » Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:21 pm

oculta nu e acuta.
oculta poate fi oricand conica, si asa si este de cele mai multe ori.
oculta - nu e dg decat prin test hemocult, nu determina melena sau hematochezie sau rectoragii...

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby fiulia » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:04 pm

Cred ca gaurav_singh_md vroia doar sa atraga atentia ca nu e tradus bine, nu ca hemoragia "oculta" ar fi totuna cu "acuta".

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby gaurav_singh_md » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:06 pm

fiulia wrote:Cred ca gaurav_singh_md vroia doar sa atraga atentia ca nu e tradus bine, nu ca hemoragia "oculta" ar fi totuna cu "acuta".

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby zubenelgenubi » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:35 pm

Do you have Harrison 14th edition in English in pdf format?
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby gaurav_singh_md » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:45 pm

zubenelgenubi wrote:Do you have Harrison 14th edition in English in pdf format?

no. i have it in print.

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby gaurav_singh_md » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:05 pm

"edentulous" persons translated as persoane "norocoase". :lol:

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Heimdallr » Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:17 pm

gaurav_singh_md wrote:"edentulous" persons translated as persoane "norocoase". :lol:


In acelasi ton ... "envelope" tradus ca anvelopa , din capitolul de insuficienta renala referitor la cristalele de oxalat.
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby gaurav_singh_md » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:11 pm

underscoring (underlining/stressing) tradus ca subevaluand

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby AllBlue » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:04 am

si inca o nelamurire din minunata carte de pediatrie - Tema "Infectii respiratorii la copil", pag 190: "In continuare sunt urmate 2 cai, si anume cresterea productiei de anticorpi antivirali de catre limfocitele T". n-ar fi trebuit sa fie B?
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:15 pm

Ba da. Nu am citit tema aia :oops: :oops: dar ai dreptate. Cred ca s-a facut o confuzie atunci cand s-a tradus din cartea straina. Anticorpii sunt sintetizati de catre limfocitele B dar interferonul gama si alte citokine antivirale sunt sintetizate de catre limfocitul T (in special T helper 1). Oricum intrebarile sunt mot a mot din carte asa ca trebuie stiut asa cum scrie in carte si nu cum e corect :shock: :shock: :shocked!: :shocked!: Sigur, probabil ca nu vor intreba o asemenea tampenie dar sa stii ca e posibil ca alte chestii prost traduse sau prost interpretate sa se regaseasca prin test :(.
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby AllBlue » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:26 pm

mda, am inceput cu partea de pediatrie ca m-am gandit ca n-ar avea cu ce sa schimbe tematica de aici.
sunt niste teme groaznice, cu multe tampenii presarate.
am mai gasit una buna: in paralizia de nerv facial, complicatie a otitei, se face paracenteza pentru diagnostic.
multumesc pentru raspunsul prompt, ca de fiecare data :)
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:48 pm

Pentru putin :)
O sa vezi ca fata de Angelescu mai ales, Ciofu e parfum :)
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby anncush » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:54 pm

oh God, ce amintiri neplacute imi trezesc Ciofu si Angelescu :) Contradictii si enormitati mai mari decat la autorii romani n-am vazut in toata materia de rezistentiat - iar "peritonitele" angelesciene sunt clar bomboana de pe coliva din toate cele 47 de teme citite de mine :) Cu toate astea, desi n-am citit grozavia aia de tema de 54 de pagini cu inf resp la copilas, paracenteza aia a timpanului ca manevra diagnostica in otita medie complicata nu mi se pare atat de deplasata - sigur, nici prea mult ORL nu stiu :)

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby pinkobsession » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:55 pm

Buna seara
As dori sa ii intreb pe colegii care au dat rezi in 2010, in legatura cu tema 30. Nutritie si alimentatie (Ciofu, paginile 23-48), voi ce ati facut cu tabelele alea in care se prezinta compozitiile formulelor de start, de follow-up si formulelor adaptate??? Mi se pare absurd si de-a dreptul cretin sa ma puna sa invat asa ceva.... :shock: La fel cum mi se pare absurd sa invat toate cele un miliard de valori pentru fiecare componenta lipidica, glucidica, fiecare element mineral si vitamina din lapte, si nu doar in necesar/zi, ci si in x/kgc/zi sau mai stiu eu cum. Voi cum ati procedat?
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby DarkComy » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:27 pm

eu unul nu am invatat decat infectiile. nu am tampit sa invat toate formulele de lapte.

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:24 pm

invata numai numele comerciale la lapturile alea:care sunt de soia,care sunt de follow up,care sunt delactozate etc!daca fac grila din tabelele astea, probabil ca la asta se refera altfel intrebari de genul cate mg de colesterol are nutrisoy sunt mai mult decat absurde! Am vazut totusi ca la rezi s-ar pune accent pe partea aia de functii ale proteinelor,glucidelor,cho etc. Spor!
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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby canci » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:05 pm

hop si eu cu o intrebare, la rezi s-au dat doze? :?

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Re: Tema 32 - Diareea acuta la copil

Postby Riley » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:46 pm

In mod obisnuit nu se dau doze, cam una-doua pe test. In schimb anul trecut s-au dat cifre destul de multe (am avut chiar o intrebare care era NUMAI cu cifre- dintr-un tabel la diabet :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: ). In rest nu prea mai tin minte sa fi fost doze la noi. Prin ceilalti ani si prin simularea de rezi au mai fost.
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