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Burnout

Postby Phat Skidz » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:15 am

Aveți cumva un pic de sindrom de burnout? Sau mai mult?
S-ar putea să vă subestimați propriul de burnout. Sunt multe studii, inclusiv unul al CMB, care arată că burnoutul la medici e mai curând regula.

Mai jos e chestionarul Copenhaga de burnout, care imparte temutul sindrom in trei parti: burnout personal, burnout legat de job si burnout legat de client (pacient in cazul nostru). Poate va va ajuta sa va orientati nitel. Apoi poate vreti sa vorbim despre propriile voastre experiente in aceasta privinta, asa, ca un grup de suport sau de invatare, sau de ce o fi el :)

Copenhagen Burnout Inventory (English
version)

Part one: Personal burnout
Definition: Personal burnout is a state of prolonged physical and
psychological exhaustion.
Questions:
1. How often do you feel tired?
2. How often are you physically exhausted?
3. How often are you emotionally exhausted?
4. How often do you think: ”I can’t take it anymore”?
5. How often do you feel worn out?
6. How often do you feel weak and susceptible to illness?
Response categories: Always, Often, Sometimes, Seldom, Never/almost never.
Scoring: Always: 100. Often: 75. Sometimes: 50. Seldom: 25. Never/almost never: 0.
Total score on the scale is the average of the scores on the items.

Part two: Work-related burnout
Definition: Work-related burnout is a state of prolonged physical and psychological
exhaustion, which is perceived as related to the person’s work.
Questions:
1. Is your work emotionally exhausting?
2. Do you feel burnt out because of your work?
3. Does your work frustrate you?
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4. Do you feel worn out at the end of the working day?
5. Are you exhausted in the morning at the thought of another day at work?
6. Do you feel that every working hour is tiring for you?
7. Do you have enough energy for family and friends during leisure time?
Response categories:
Three first questions: To a very high degree, To a high degree, Somewhat, To a low degree, To
a very low degree.
Last four questions: Always, Often, Sometimes, Seldom, Never/almost never. Reversed score
for last question.

Part three: Client-related burnout
Definition: Client-related burnout is a state of prolonged physical and psychological
exhaustion, which is perceived as related to the person’s work with clients*.
*Clients, patients, social service recipients, elderly citizens, or inmates.
Questions:
1. Do you find it hard to work with clients?
2. Do you find it frustrating to work with clients?
3. Does it drain your energy to work with clients?
4. Do you feel that you give more than you get back when you work with clients?
5. Are you tired of working with clients?
6. Do you sometimes wonder how long you will be able to continue working with clients?
Response categories:
The four first questions: To a very high degree, To a high degree, Somewhat, To a low degree,
To a very low degree.
The two last questions: Always, Often, Sometimes, Seldom, Never/almost never.
and in the eyes of the jackal i say kaboom

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Re: Burnout

Postby mihai_525 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:39 am

pleaca in franta garantat o sa treaca.
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Re: Burnout

Postby Boss » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:43 am

Am 2 burnout-uri la activ. Deja ma alarmez la orice semn care ar putea sa-mi strice treburile. Stau cu piciorul pe pedala de frana. Important e sa-i spui superiorului cand ai nevoie de repaus din timp, ca sa nu-l incurci. La fel de important e sa te odihnesti cand poti face asta. De la victima la participant activ in prevenirea burnoutului.

Problema e ca se instaleaza treptat, paradigma se schimba lent si nu poti vedea schimbarile astea lente. Se incolaceste incet in jurul tau ca un piton, incet pana te paralizeaza.

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Re: Burnout

Postby Boss » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:56 am

Ce fac acum e ce am vrut inca de cand lucram la oemfau petrol. E important.

Atunci am tras mai mult decat trebuie pentru un proiect personal de inovare ale carui rezultate sunt si acum folosite. A fost dezamagitor ca nu am primit acceptul ptr schimbarea titlului positiei (automat ar fi venit cu un focus mai semnificativ pe ce doream), respectiv cercetare-dezvoltare (R&D).
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Re: Burnout

Postby mihai_525 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:57 am

eu nu am asa ceva dar bine eu cos cave de om, scot boala cu mana, mi se spune des “m-ati salvat din ghearili mortii”, sunt cineva
bine daca avem noroc la diversity visa anul acesta si plec sa muncesc pompier in california s-ar putea sa am o surpriza neplacuta cu burn out in sensul propriu dar decat in constructii sau gunoier sau mai stiu eu ce doamne fereste sofer de uber sau narcotraficant ziceti si voi
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Re: Burnout

Postby Boss » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:58 am

Cava n-are treaba cu burnoutul.

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Re: Burnout

Postby mihai_525 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:01 am

ei ce sa zici si tu acum
hai sa mergem intr un bar eu surgeon si tu la omv sa vedem cine pleaca cu gagica vrei
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Re: Burnout

Postby andy gavrilescu » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:05 am

Un oftalmolog

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Re: Burnout

Postby Boss » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:06 am

mihai_525 wrote:ei ce sa zici si tu acum
hai sa mergem intr un bar eu surgeon si tu la omv sa vedem cine pleaca cu gagica vrei


Asa e daca te-ai facut surgeon ptr gagici.

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Re: Burnout

Postby alimori » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:28 am

Phat Skidz wrote:Aveți cumva un pic de sindrom de burnout? Sau mai mult?
S-ar putea să vă subestimați propriul de burnout. Sunt multe studii, inclusiv unul al CMB, care arată că burnoutul la medici e mai curând regula.

Mai jos e chestionarul Copenhaga de burnout, care imparte temutul sindrom in trei parti: burnout personal, burnout legat de job si burnout legat de client (pacient in cazul nostru). Poate va va ajuta sa va orientati nitel. Apoi poate vreti sa vorbim despre propriile voastre experiente in aceasta privinta, asa, ca un grup de suport sau de invatare, sau de ce o fi el :)

Copenhagen Burnout Inventory (English
version)

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si care-s valorile de la care esti considerat burnt out?

am fost cu jobul, m-am inscris la o alta facultate ca sa ies dracu' din medicina, intre timp am schimbat jobul, acum imi place si m-am inscris la un master ca sa invat mai multa medicina d-asta de-a mea.
ma mai gandesc din cand in cand sa repet rezidentiatul ca sa aleg un laborator si sa nu mai am parte de pacienti, dar cand ii vad p-aia de laborator ce ciudatei sunt, cred ca e mai sanatos pt mine sa raman unde sunt.

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Re: Burnout

Postby andy gavrilescu » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:29 am

Pai si ce faci momentan?

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Re: Burnout

Postby andy gavrilescu » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:30 am

Eu vreau sa imi fac ferma in cativa ani

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Re: Burnout

Postby alimori » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:42 am

momentan caut idei de "afaceri" cu care sa-mi permit sa muncesc (foarte) part-time in medicina si un picut in altceva si sa traiesc bine (nu ma refer doar la bani, ci sa ma pot organiza singura, sa-mi aleg zilele si orele de munca si de vacanta, la munca sa decid eu, nu altul pt mine).

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Re: Burnout

Postby mihai_525 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:49 am

alimori marita-te BINE scapi de toate problemele uita-te la mumapadurii
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Re: Burnout

Postby mihai_525 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:50 am

e uite-te sau uita-te ?!?
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Re: Burnout

Postby mihai_525 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:56 pm

gata!
mi-a ajuns!
destul!
plec in maladive.
adio imed crud !
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Re: Burnout

Postby jomil » Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:38 pm

Hai aici, e mai natural.
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Re: Burnout

Postby Boss » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:48 pm

burnout in sange?

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Re: Burnout

Postby Kentf » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:49 pm

Eu cred ca burn out e o vrajeala.
Ce poate fii chiar asa greu si stresant la profesia de medic??

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Re: Burnout

Postby Boss » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:46 pm

jomil wrote:Hai aici, e mai natural.


le-ai scos la pascut

in sfarsit am gasit un avatar pe masura pentru userul meu
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Re: Burnout

Postby andy gavrilescu » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:30 am

da, câte figuri desenate, atâtea clone

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Re: Burnout

Postby Melania » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:48 am

E o burnoutul recunoscut ca boala? Stiam ca e diagnosticat ca depresie in unele tari.
Eu cred ca e necesar si cred ca fiecare profesionist ar trebui sa treaca prin asa ceva pentru a-si cunoaste limitele.
Nu stiu care sunt statisticile dar intuitia imi spune ca dupa un episod de burnout probabilitatea sa-l faci pe al doilea scade drastic. Asa ca e ca un ritual de pasaj in viata profesionala adulta, nimic grav.

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Re: Burnout

Postby jomil » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:25 am

M-am inscris la un workshop despre cum sa previn burnout si sa build resilience..
organizat de MPS
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Re: Burnout

Postby jomil » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:30 am

Acu vad ca Mihai zice de 3D ca s-a dus din tara. Ce pierdere...
S-a mai dus un patriot
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Re: Burnout

Postby Boss » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:52 am

Melania wrote:E o burnoutul recunoscut ca boala? Stiam ca e diagnosticat ca depresie in unele tari.
Eu cred ca e necesar si cred ca fiecare profesionist ar trebui sa treaca prin asa ceva pentru a-si cunoaste limitele.
Nu stiu care sunt statisticile dar intuitia imi spune ca dupa un episod de burnout probabilitatea sa-l faci pe al doilea scade drastic. Asa ca e ca un ritual de pasaj in viata profesionala adulta, nimic grav.


cam asta iti zice specialistul. nu-ti propune mai mult decat poti

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Re: Burnout

Postby mihai_525 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:17 pm

asa deci daca mai moare unu in soc septic de la escare dupa avc eu imi bag efectiv picioarele si plec la truckereala in canada
oameni putreziti de vii nici viermii nu-i mai mananca pana si lor le e scarba de halul de mizerie in care au ajuns
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