in cazul psoriazisului mild, cu leziuni doar pe scalp, ajuta vitamina D3 in doze de 20 micro grame/zi? de fapt iau asa intr-o zi:
2xVitamina D3 pur (2x7.5 micrograme D3) + 1xVitamina A/D (care are 5 micrograme D3)---le iau la cele 3 mese principale.
Psoriazisul si Vitamina D3
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Re: Psoriazisul si Vitamina D3
da ce, s-a scos diprosalicul de pe piata? sau daca ala e prea scump, asorianul e mai accesibil
nickul tau este absolut horror. "psory"????
nickul tau este absolut horror. "psory"????
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mai trident, nimic nu pricepi, el este "I". Zice "psory" and "I"... Sunt veniti impreuna, dar el sigur e I.
Dhoa!
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Re: Psoriazisul si Vitamina D3
trident wrote:da ce, s-a scos diprosalicul de pe piata? sau daca ala e prea scump, asorianul e mai accesibil
ok, asta a durut, dar mwrci de sugestie
trident wrote:nickul tau este absolut horror. "psory"????
daca tot nu pot sa scap de el, macar nume sa aiba
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Re: Psoriazisul si Vitamina D3
e ingrozitor ce spui. e ca si cum ai spune "tibi" la tbc (ca americanii), "lupy" la lupus, "dimy" la dermatomiozita, etc.
horror de-a dreptul.
horror de-a dreptul.
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Io cred ca e doar o incercare de a minimaliza boala, de a o accepta mai usor.
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Enunti evidentZe. Asta nu face sa fie mai putin horror.
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In caz ca mai intereseaza pe cineva, tratamentul asta chiar a dat rezultate. se implinesc deja 4 luni de cand iau (la recomandarea mea si in doza stabilita de mine ) vitamina D3. de mai bine de 1 luna jumate nu mai folosesc solutiile recomandate de dermatolog pentru ca nu mai am nici o leziune
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Re: Psoriazisul si Vitamina D3
deci 2 luni si jumatate oricum imbunatatirea s-a datorat cermelro dermatolgoice
apoi ca in orice boala, si in psioriazis exista perioade lungi fara leziuni, si de jumate de an sau un an.
bine, bucura-te, dar... stii..
mai tine-ne la curent.
sa nu faci hipervitaminoza D, e destul de grava chestia asta sa stii
de altfel exista deriv de vitamina D in prod antipso - daivobet, daivonex etc
ce te-a oprit sa le utilizeze?
apoi ca in orice boala, si in psioriazis exista perioade lungi fara leziuni, si de jumate de an sau un an.
bine, bucura-te, dar... stii..
mai tine-ne la curent.
sa nu faci hipervitaminoza D, e destul de grava chestia asta sa stii
de altfel exista deriv de vitamina D in prod antipso - daivobet, daivonex etc
ce te-a oprit sa le utilizeze?
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Re: Psoriazisul si Vitamina D3
am psoriazis de mult timp ( > 10 ani ) iar ultimele preparate recomandate de medic le foloseam deja ( fara intrerupere ) de 4 ani (timp in care si-au pierdut de tot efectul). Avand in vedere ca in acesti 4 ani nu am avut parte de nici o perioada fara leziuni (nici macar de 1 saptamana) m-as mira ca tocmai acum au inceput sa-si faca efectul. eu cred ca e de la vitamina D3.
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crezi, dar nu poti fi sigura pentru ca in ceea ce numim noi evidence-based medicine ce ti se intampla tie ca si unic pacient este egal cu zero barat. sau aproape, nivel de evidenta minim, ii spunem noi, medicii.
daca ai avea 10 colegi care si ei la fel, ar mai creste nivelul de evidenta. dar nu e cazul deocamdata.
putem spune ca incercarile tale se apropie ca si probitate stiintifica de medicina empirica a evului mediu, sincer nu stiu cat mai suntem noi, medicii moderni, interesati de astfel de anecdote
stii ca la tara pacientii isi dau cu urina ca sa scape de psoriazis? si .. stii ceva? functioneaza putin, chiar functioneaza (nu e gluma, nu e hoax).
acum sersios: nu ai facut nicio descoperire: -uite un mare jurnal de dermatologie acum 3 sapramani zicea acelasi lucru ca si tine
J Dermatolog Treat. 2012 Jan 21. [Epub ahead of print]
Oral vitamin D, still a viable treatment option for psoriasis.
Kamangar F, Koo J, Heller M, Lee E, Bhutani T.
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Department of Dermatology, University of California, Davis School of Medicine , San Francisco, CA , USA.
Abstract
Abstract Vitamin D as a topical treatment has become one of the mainstays for treatment of psoriasis vulgaris. Oral vitamin D on the other hand has for the most part become a forgotten option. But a review of the literature on oral vitamin D as a treatment for psoriasis reveals that this treatment is efficacious. The main side effect of this therapy is hypercalcemia, which appears to be easily monitored and avoidable with proper dosing and monitoring. The literature also suggests a correlation between low levels of serum vitamin D in this patient population associated with increased severity of disease involvement. In addition, oral vitamin D improves psoriatic arthropathy. Moreover, vitamin D has been proven to have many health benefits such as prevention of cancer, improved cardiovascular health among many others. Psoriatic patients as a population are at increased risk of developing adverse health complications such as cardiovascular disease, and oral vitamin D may prove to be of benefit in this population. Oral vitamin D is inexpensive and easily available. It is still a viable option and should not be forgotten as a possible treatment for psoriasis.
daca ai avea 10 colegi care si ei la fel, ar mai creste nivelul de evidenta. dar nu e cazul deocamdata.
putem spune ca incercarile tale se apropie ca si probitate stiintifica de medicina empirica a evului mediu, sincer nu stiu cat mai suntem noi, medicii moderni, interesati de astfel de anecdote
stii ca la tara pacientii isi dau cu urina ca sa scape de psoriazis? si .. stii ceva? functioneaza putin, chiar functioneaza (nu e gluma, nu e hoax).
acum sersios: nu ai facut nicio descoperire: -uite un mare jurnal de dermatologie acum 3 sapramani zicea acelasi lucru ca si tine
J Dermatolog Treat. 2012 Jan 21. [Epub ahead of print]
Oral vitamin D, still a viable treatment option for psoriasis.
Kamangar F, Koo J, Heller M, Lee E, Bhutani T.
Source
Department of Dermatology, University of California, Davis School of Medicine , San Francisco, CA , USA.
Abstract
Abstract Vitamin D as a topical treatment has become one of the mainstays for treatment of psoriasis vulgaris. Oral vitamin D on the other hand has for the most part become a forgotten option. But a review of the literature on oral vitamin D as a treatment for psoriasis reveals that this treatment is efficacious. The main side effect of this therapy is hypercalcemia, which appears to be easily monitored and avoidable with proper dosing and monitoring. The literature also suggests a correlation between low levels of serum vitamin D in this patient population associated with increased severity of disease involvement. In addition, oral vitamin D improves psoriatic arthropathy. Moreover, vitamin D has been proven to have many health benefits such as prevention of cancer, improved cardiovascular health among many others. Psoriatic patients as a population are at increased risk of developing adverse health complications such as cardiovascular disease, and oral vitamin D may prove to be of benefit in this population. Oral vitamin D is inexpensive and easily available. It is still a viable option and should not be forgotten as a possible treatment for psoriasis.
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Re: Psoriazisul si Vitamina D3
Nu pretind ca eu am facut descoperirea cu vitamina D3. Evident ca am aflat de varianta asta de pe internet. tu ai crezunt ca m-am sculat intr-o dimineata si brusc mi-a venit ideea sa iau vitamina D3 ?
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Re: Psoriazisul si Vitamina D3
tu ai crezut ca ai scapat de psoriazis?
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Am citit iar in urina
Ca doar tu poti fi de vina,
Psory.
Ca doar tu poti fi de vina,
Psory.
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